Sch group (Subchorionic Hematoma)

[Mumof42009]

Thanks everyone for the support my bleed is now 8.6cmx1.4cm this is why im being prepared for pre-term delivery plus placenta is low. Been so much to take in today heads all over the place. Is everyone ok? xx

 

[Fluxuspoem]

My thoughts are with you honey try and think positive, the placenta may move out of the way and you things may get better very soon! dont loose hope! your little man is a fighter!

XXX

 

[miel]

Thanks everyone for the support my bleed is now 8.6cmx1.4cm this is why im being prepared for pre-term delivery plus placenta is low. Been so much to take in today heads all over the place. Is everyone ok? xx

if you dont mind asking...i saw on your ticker..your first baby you had at 28 weeks ..did he stay long in the hospital when you had him? ...

i am so glad we have each other girls ...

 

[jennifer34rn]

well,I had my level 2 u/s yesterday.The good news is the baby is perfect,everything anatomicaly was great and combined with my blood tests theres a 1 :9,300 chance of a chromosomal abnormality

Bad news is my sch grew, its now 10 x 5 x 1.3...thats even bigger than originally when I hemorrhaged. I thought for sure it would be smaller, Ive only had reddish-brown blood,no fresh bleeds, and Ive been taking it so easy. Im frustrated and scared.

 

[miel]

Jennifer sorry sweetie ...but i am glad to know your baby is ok ...did they tell you if you should go on bed rest at all ?...e
i also had only brownish discharge everyday for over a week (since the hemorage too)...

i understand how frustrated this beit's so upsetting ...it's basically a waiting game for us...

 

[Fluxuspoem]

Jennifer I just want to say how happy I am to hear that your baby is well and taht your tests came back brilliant!

I am sorry to hear about the hematoma, I completely understand your frustration and fears, I'd feel the same. Assuming that you will continue with strict bed rest and get monitored with more scans??

X

 

[Fluxuspoem]

Thanks everyone for the support my bleed is now 8.6cmx1.4cm this is why im being prepared for pre-term delivery plus placenta is low. Been so much to take in today heads all over the place. Is everyone ok? xx

I am ok honey thanks for asking, have my scan next Friday so a long wait for me. I will also get some of my blood tests back and in combination with the nuchal scan we may be able to relax a bit, fingers crossed.

XX

 

[Mumof42009]

well,I had my level 2 u/s yesterday.The good news is the baby is perfect,everything anatomicaly was great and combined with my blood tests theres a 1 :9,300 chance of a chromosomal abnormality

Bad news is my sch grew, its now 10 x 5 x 1.3...thats even bigger than originally when I hemorrhaged. I thought for sure it would be smaller, Ive only had reddish-brown blood,no fresh bleeds, and Ive been taking it so easy. Im frustrated and scared.

Ah hun all we can do is rest, i know its easier said than done even i cant manage it! I was suprised mine had got bigger as well as ive only been having brownish stuff but regularly, they said no sex for me as well like ive even been thinking about that! sending you

 

[Mumof42009]

Thanks everyone for the support my bleed is now 8.6cmx1.4cm this is why im being prepared for pre-term delivery plus placenta is low. Been so much to take in today heads all over the place. Is everyone ok? xx

if you dont mind asking...i saw on your ticker..your first baby you had at 28 weeks ..did he stay long in the hospital when you had him? ...

i am so glad we have each other girls ...

dont know what i'd do without you all ladies
My dd who was born at 28 wks she was in about 7 weeks, she was very poorly in the early days but she was a little fighter just like my other girlys xx

 

[Mumof42009]

I wanted to add some info for when you ladies have 20 week scans if thats ok? Just incase you have the same show up as me. Hyperechoic/echogenic bowel can occur as a result of maternal bleeding in the uterus. The baby may swallow the blood, which makes the bowel appear bright on ultrasound. If this is the cause for the echogenic bowel, an ultrasound can be performed to try to locate the source of maternal bleeding. Usually, bleeding will resolve and cause no further reason for concern.

 

[jennifer34rn]

Jennifer I just want to say how happy I am to hear that your baby is well and taht your tests came back brilliant!

I am sorry to hear about the hematoma, I completely understand your frustration and fears, I'd feel the same. Assuming that you will continue with strict bed rest and get monitored with more scans??

X

yep, bedrest indefinately and weekly appts with my midwife with u/s...I also see the perinatologist again in one month.

 

[miel]

what you think girls...as i was stressing since my husband wrote my OBGYN... and i was suppose to only meet her in a other month or so since my last scan...last tuesday..

Subject: from Daniel phelps

Daniel: Hello Dr. Phan. It was very nice meeting you. I wanted to contact you because I wasn't available for your last talk with Laetitia regarding the SCH and I am a bit worried about her. She tried to explain the conversation she had with you but came away with a very negative impression of the blood clot and condition and this has gotten deeper as she has learned of friends and acquaintances who had it too. I fear that without an interim scan before the next one scheduled in mid July, Laetitia may stress herself out to a point to complicate the pregnancy further. It would put both of us at ease if we could get another ultrasound to measure it and talk to you more about the condition in general sometime in the next two weeks. Best, Daniel Phelps
PS: i am home in the evening after 8 pm.

this what she answer...

Hello Daniel,

I understand your frustrations and concerns. Although we will examine the blood clot at the next ultrasound, the primary purpose of that ultrasound is not to examine the subchorionic hematoma. The primary goal of the ultrasound is to make sure that that baby is well grown and that there are no major congenital deformities. They will look at the clot because we know it is there, but it would not change anything that we do during this pregnancy. It would not mean more surveillance right now and it would also not lead to bedrest, hospitalization of any other changes in care. Because of your level of concern and anxiety, I have put in a request for you and Laetitia to have a consultation with one of our perinatologist. Their office will be contacting you.


so i like that i will see a specialist ...

 

[jennifer34rn]

Thats great that you will be seeing a peri, mine was able to answer alot of questions

 

[Fluxuspoem]

Hi Miel

I think its great that you will see a specialist even though the response of your Obgyn frustrates me to no end I must admit.

The ultrasounds that women with SCHs receive, are not to prevent or change the course of action, they are there for REASSURANCE. Even if the SCH doesnt gets smaller, a woman with an SCH needs to see that her baby is OK more frequent that other women that have no problems in their pregnancies. I find his response a bit insensitive, considering that Daniel's letter was very polite and gentle.

However, like I've said, its great that you will see a Peri, and he/she will be able to give you more information on your condition, what to expect and in general feel a bit more supported.

Because that is what it comes down to, support when you feel helpless and vulnerable from a condition that you cannot control.

Big hugs
XXX

 

[Pippa66]

Hi Jennifer,

It is good news about your baby being OK but I am sorry to hear your SCH has got bigger . It is such a worry isn't it? Sounds like you are getting great care though, so I will keep my fingers crossed that everything continues to go well.

Glad you will get to see a specialist Miel. Hope your questions are answered!

This time next week I will be having my nuchal scan and will find out what is happening with my haematoma. Feeling stressed already on both counts!

Hope everyone is doing OK today. Sending to one and all! xxx

 

[Kota]

Hello Ladies,
Thought I'd come and introduce myself to you lot in here, thank you to Fluxuspoem for the link. Just to let you know whats going on with me,
I'm (as now dated) 8+4 wks pregnant and last night had a rather heavy bleed, tmi ahead but it was enough to soak through a liner/my pants and onto my joggers, and then soak another full pad in about an hour.
I also passed 2 small clots and then a large piece of tissue. Obviously freaked out I thought the worst. Went for a scan this morning and my little bean was dancing away in there, nice strong heartbeat, and everything looking great. The Dr did point out further blood sitting quite near the placenta and advised me that it could either be reabsorbed, or I would bleed again. When I asked him what would cause the bleeding he just said it was 'one of those things' when I asked about bed rest he told me that it wouldn't make a difference.
Obviously after reading everyones experiences on here, and doing a bit of google searching, I'm seeing that once diagnosed this really isn't the case!!

I've got my booking in appointment with my MW tomorrow, and an appointment with my OB next wednesday as I've prev had DVT and other medical complications that he wanted to watch my pregnancy closer then normal, but how do I push for this possibility to be investigated further??

Thanks in advance.

 

[miel]

Hi Miel

I think its great that you will see a specialist even though the response of your Obgyn frustrates me to no end I must admit.

The ultrasounds that women with SCHs receive, are not to prevent or change the course of action, they are there for REASSURANCE. Even if the SCH doesnt gets smaller, a woman with an SCH needs to see that her baby is OK more frequent that other women that have no problems in their pregnancies. I find his response a bit insensitive, considering that Daniel's letter was very polite and gentle.

However, like I've said, its great that you will see a Peri, and he/she will be able to give you more information on your condition, what to expect and in general feel a bit more supported.

Because that is what it comes down to, support when you feel helpless and vulnerable from a condition that you cannot control.

Big hugs
XXX

it's exactly why my husband wrote her as we were frustrated that she did not understand the stress that this all thing is causing me ...it's like when i ask her the dimension of my clot her answer was big or small it doesn't matter...so 1 she doesn;t answer my question of the dimension and second i do believe that size matter in a condition like that...

Kota i tthink you should request a scan for your placenta ...to they can check it...welcome to our group sweetie

 

[Fluxuspoem]

Hi Kota sweetie, welcome here!

You should mention to your both your midwife and Obgyn. Your obgyn should be able to investigate and diagnose an SCH ( from the sound of it I think it may be hon) and give you his advise. Be warned, in the UK most of the time, the NHS will tell you there is nothing you can do and they actully dont really offer too much support.

Dont be phased by this. Explain that you know people that have the same problem and are monitored regularly, the size of the clot and how it develops etc. Push as much as you can for solid medical support. You've got nothing to loose!

Unfortunatelly opinions differ on bedrest but my personal experience is that it has stopped my bleeding (I was bleeding brown for 4-5 weeks clots and all).

Take it easy and rest a lot, very important as the other ladies say above, dont lift any weights or do any activity that involves a lot of bending etc using stomach muscles.

Also, sex is unfortunatelly a no go, pelvic rest seems to be something that is really important.

I hope the above helps a bit, we are a small group, but we seem to have created already a brilliant network of knowledge sharing here, so any questions dont hesitate my dear.

Big hugs

 

[jennifer34rn]

hi kota, Im sorry you have a need to be here but I hope we can offer support You will need to push for extra care,Im a strong believer that it does make a difference with sch's. My midwife put me on modified bedrest, no work,no lifting and absolutely no sex...she said pelvic rest is the one known factor that helps prevent a miscarriage with a sch. Also drink alot of water,contractions are bad and can make the sch bigger. Since I started following my midwifes orders I havent had any bright red bleeding,just brownish-red blood that looks old. My sch did grow this last week but Ive read that alot of sch's get bigger before they get smaller...Im praying thats true. Please dont feel silly pushing your dr.s to see you more often, and ask for a referral to a specialist

 

[miel]

Jennifer34rn...interesting they do get bigger before getting smaller...i did not know that ...

i keep asking myself why this brownish cm so much...i was hoping it was the clot draining but after over 10 days of this i am starting to doubt it...